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This is Hacker Public Radio episode 4,107 for Tuesday the 30th of April 2024.

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Today's show is entitled, Response to Hacker Public Radio 4,065.

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It is hosted by Swift 110 and is about 22 minutes long.

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It carries a clean flag.

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The summary is, shout out to a shout out I talk more about what I want in a framework laptop.

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Everybody, this is Swift 110 and I thought it would be great to do a response to a response

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to one of my latest audio post here on Hacker Public Radio.

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The noodles did a really, really, really good job at giving this response and sharing

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his information about the Intel framework that he is currently using.

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I appreciate the shout out, shout out back, follow me guys, that was an amazing, amazing post

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here on Hacker Public Radio.

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Thanks again for that.

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Now, what he posted was HHPR, that's 4,065, framework 13, 13 generation Intel review.

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This was in response to my post here on Hacker Public Radio and that one specifically

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once I get my, wow, there it is.

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This was in response to my own personal post here and, yeah, I think mine was HPR 40, 45.

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So if you get a chance to check out my original post where I was talking about my MacBook

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Pro 2015 and how I look forward to some day getting a framework 13, now let me go into

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that.

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The framework 13 that I want in particular is the AMD version and I want the best CPU

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and the most RAM that I can get in there, like that's like top.

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I know I want the AMD version from reading on Reddit and other comments I've seen online

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because it has a better graphics card than the Intel version does and so I want to make

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sure that if I get this new machine and I spin this new machine money, then I'm going

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to get the best that I can get.

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One of the things I really like about framework is their repair ability and to tell you

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a brief story about the MacBook 2010 that I have, I was using it, got it as a gift for

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free and really nice, used it for Zoom virtually every day during the pandemic, which

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was very critical to my mental health at the time because of everything going on in the

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world at that time, so sure you can understand and so it was nice being able to communicate

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with friends from different parts of the country by means of Zoom and that machine, although

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really, really, really old, was really, really good at getting me communicate, getting me connected

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to friends all over the country and so I'm grateful for having that particular machine.

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It's just a beautiful thing.

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Now I'm going to somehow connect Apple to framework.

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Now what I appreciated about that particular machine that MacBook 2010 is that I could take

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the RAM from whatever was in there already, be it, two gigs of RAM or four gigs of

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RAM.

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Oh, I could bring it all the way up to 16 gigs of RAM, nice, right?

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How many machines can you do that in modern times?

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Over time things got soldered, hard drives got soldered, this got soldered, that got soldered,

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everybody soldered, soldered, filled me so it was good to go to a company that I wasn't

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expecting to have such a great ability, but to be able to make my machine a lot greater

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than what it was before I made those upgrades, another upgrade, again, up to 16 gigs of

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RAM.

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Okay?

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I'm dealing with the Core 2 Duo CPU, but at least that Core 2 Duo CPU got some help, because

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in addition to that RAM, I was able to take out the original hard drive and get a new

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SSD.

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That was not only newer, but being an SSD it has no moving parts, so it's more durable,

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it's just a better faster, and also had a greater storage ability.

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That's definitely a plus on its own, and so upgrading the RAM, upgrading the hard drives,

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and then going from the operating system I had on that particular machine at the time,

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which I am going to venture, I forgot what it was, and you know what, it doesn't matter

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what it was, because I ended up putting Catalina over there.

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It took a long time to get it done, because my internet was hot garbage at the time, but

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got the job done and had a functioning machine in that whole scenario, so yeah, congratulations.

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This is where Apple was doing at that time.

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Apple moved away from allowing their machines to be repairable by the user, and so in essence

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they fell from grace, which is a real dog on shame, if you ask me.

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Now compare that two, for example, the T420 that I have right to my right, very nice

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machine got it back in 2016, I believe, got that for a pawn shop, nice, but I also ended

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up getting a new one from an online retailer, as a surplus in Michigan, I got a nice T420

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from them, and that one's really nice, a problem is it overheats really easily, and I don't

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like that at all, and so it ended up not being so useful for Zoom because it would just cut

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all frameable, which is why I rarely use it, also there's an issue with the keyboard and

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whatever other issues I've forgotten about, but that just is what it is.

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The fact that I had problems with that particular machine made me appreciate the MacBook

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2010 even more, and I used that MacBook 2010 until I managed to spills just a little bit

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water into the keyboard one day, July a few years ago, I remember that I had no idea, and from

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that day on the keyboard just did not work properly, the machine was shut off randomly, I had to

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keep it plugged in all the time, just for the thing work and hope the goodness it doesn't come loose,

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or anything, what happened is shut it off, because then I'd have to unplug the battery,

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I'd have to press keys, do all kinds of stuff, and it might come back on or it might not,

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sometimes I had to sit for a while, I messed with it, then it comes on, but it was nice to just

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have it on for a while, but it still will be really wonky, just needed to sip a water real quick,

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but yeah, not that long afterwards I was able to actually get this MacBook Pro 2015, this was a gift,

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and I really appreciate this machine from the time that I got it, it's actually running

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Monterey, and I'm going to be updating that in a little bit, not to a new operating system,

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but just to another version, security, version of that operating system, make sure it stays up to date,

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and I'll stick on Monterey as long as it's reasonable to do so, and then when I see fit, I'll go to

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a later version, I'll see how far I can take that, but to be honest right now, I'm really happy with

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this MacBook Pro in 2015, it's got 16 gigs of RAM, it's an i7 processor, all in all, let's be

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more specific about that, because I'm pretty much going to talk about what I have right now,

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and then compare that to what I actually want with regards to framework, the problem was waiting

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for that talk about the framework, the actual CPU I have in here is an Intel i7, 4770HQ,

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I got a GPU of an Intel Ivers Pro, and I'm rocking 16 gigs of RAM, what I want to have,

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and then framework, let's go to the actual framework website, lab site,

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hmm, did I really say lab site, website, is the framework lab top 13,

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do-it-yourself edition AMD Ryzen 7040 series, boom boom boom, let's kick on that orange,

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configure button shall we, oh, what have we got here, do I really want that 7040 series,

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eh, I bet you I can be better than that, why not go ahead and get that 7840, you,

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but that 8 core and 16th grade, and it comes with that big battery, 61 watt hours, okay,

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that's going to be an additional 320 over the 849 that I started off with for a whopping $1,169,

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okay, now I add to that even more, and let's just assume that I'm configuring this machine with

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all parts from framework and that I'm not getting my own from another source, so let's do this DDR5,

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64 gigs, that's another $320 that brings me up to $1489, now I already got that going on, let's

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talk about the storage, what kind of storage do I want, hmm western digital black S and 770,

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or S and 850X NVMe, well the S and 850X NVMe is one terabyte and it's only a couple bucks more than

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$99, so with the heck, let me go ahead and do that, oh no operating system, you're trying to get

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me to put windows on this thing, I will not curse this machine with windows, I guarantee it,

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so I'll tell you what, we can go ahead and click that none, bring your own, now we come to a bezel,

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you see one of the reasons that I like the framework is the fact that you can customize your

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machine according to what you want, you're not going to try to give me a machine to just got 8 gigs of

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RAM in 2024, you know why, because that's absolutely ridiculous, and anybody that does that ought to

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be ashamed of themselves, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm talking to you, I'm talking to you, all right,

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let's get back to business here, I have an option of a black bezel, gray bezel, orange bezel, green,

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bezel, lavender, dollars, and say it again, or red, uh, last two definitely, last three,

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definitely not going to happen, I'm leaning on orange, gray, or black, don't matter, so let's go ahead,

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kick it with the keyboard, US English, of course, because I speak English, power adapter, let's say I

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want a power adapter, do I want a 60 watt power adapter, you better bet you, let's talk about these

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expansion chords, all right, I definitely want a USBC, definitely want two USBAs, I definitely want

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an HDMI third generation, booyah, do I need ethernet, and do I need microSD, maybe not, now the truth

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of the matter is that I already have a USBC doc, so I may not need all this to be in a machine as an

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expansion chord, but a it wouldn't hurt to have because it's just $20 for that microSD, so I'm

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not even tripping off of that at all, um, let's see, what can I get right now, how about we get another

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USBC, okay, I'm already at the 1727 doc, so $1,727 and $27 and do I want a storage expansion card,

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$250, I don't really need one, what I would like to do is perhaps, remember I told you about

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putting that cursor windows on this machine, I don't want to put windows on that main drive,

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but I'd be open to using it by means of an expansion chord, and then having the main drive

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running my Linux, the distribution of Linux I'd be using is called Solus, I think that will be a

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fantastic choice, so that's good to go, I don't necessarily need a storage expansion card off the

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break, so we're going to leave that fit, leave that the way it is, so let's go ahead, it says

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make a selection for bezel, you're going to make me make a selection, that's okay, how about I go with

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black, boring, I know, shoot me, okay, let's do the add to bag, $1,727, give me crack coin and I don't care,

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oh, as it turns out, I've already configured a machine several times, that's why my price is what it is

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because this is multiple machines, wow, okay, not bad, but at least you get the point of what it is

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that I would like as far as this particular framework machine, now one of the things that I look

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forward to moving from the MacBook Pro that I carry around every day right now, this MacBook Pro from

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2016 to a framework AMD 13-inch is that it'll be lighter, probably about a pound and a half

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lighter, and I gotta make sure I don't make up for that pound of math, I added more into my

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bag than what I need, so I'll work on that, so now it's nice having the machine, but it will be nice

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to have something new, now my MacBook Pro can get a little noisy sometimes, never anything really

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bothersome, but it is what it is, what I like about the framework is that it's also a rocket design

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and that appeals to me, something goes wrong, I can go get a new part, boom, pop that back in,

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do all the work myself and everything that is in there, I meant to make this comment about Apple,

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when you do repair stuff, sometimes you have to use a special screwdriver hit, I think it's called

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the Pentalo, whatever you call it, and so the thing about the framework all you need is one screwdriver

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and you can handle any piece that's in that machine, I love it, I also love the fact that all the

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pieces in there, the components that are in there, are also marked with the QR code,

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there's also a marketplace you can buy used pieces, you can do what you need to have a new machine

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the way you want it, love it, what else is great about the framework in particular, well let's say you

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have a 13th generation AMD framework, but yet let me go even further, let's go all the way back to

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in framework for a start with their 11th generation Intel, I can literally take that 11th generation

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Intel device and upgrade to a 13th generation CPU, Intel, it can be AMD for crying a little,

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what are the machines can you do that with? I wait,

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side, can't do that, I don't know of any other machines you can do that with, where you can jump

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generations like that now in the classic big pads, you could put a new, you could put like a,

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you know, a new, you could put a newer CPU in there, you could do some things, this takes that

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to the next level and I want you to understand that, once you take that to the next level it

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means you theoretically have a laptop that you don't need to throw away, and a beautiful thing

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about those motherboards is that once you're done with them, you can build a whole new PC off of that,

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isn't that awesome? So you'll always have a use for those older motherboards, they won't just

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be sitting around gathering dust unless that's just what you wanted to do.

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There was something I meant to say, and I don't want to forget it because it's a very important thing.

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Let's see, let me take another sip of water. I'm hoping you can hear me right because I was using

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these air buds, but the thing is they get loosened out ear and they are like about the fall and

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when I adjust them and it messes up my audio and that gets really annoying, that's why I like

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the ones that go over the ear, like the hook because then they stay in place and I don't have

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to have them move while I'm talking, the vibration kind of makes them come out of my ear and that's

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really annoying, goodness is annoying. I am trying to think of what I was about to say

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I've been meaning to do, oh well, I lost it. So we're not even going to worry about that.

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Let's still back to the recording. I'm obviously still recording because that's what I do.

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And like I said, I'm looking for a machine that I can build myself.

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Something I can really enjoy and I don't have to make expensive repairs to it either.

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I've learned a lot about this company ever since it came out. I watched a bunch of YouTube videos,

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everything, different ones that have reviewed it and shout out to Lewis Rossman as well

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because I appreciate the way that he is very straightforward about what he has to say

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and doesn't pull punches. Great job. Thanks Lewis. It's just nice to be able to have such a nice

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machine and this truly mine. What I'm going for and that's what we're going to be doing.

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And what else did I want to say while I was here? Like I said, I'll be using solos on here

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and yeah. So that's about all I really have to say at this point really.

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I thought there was something else I can always do. Another recording and follow up on what I'm

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saying right now. But it is what it is. If I might redo this one as well. But anyway, this has been

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Swift 110 and options talking about the journey from MacBook Pro 2015 to framework AMD 13-inch

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framework AMD 13th generation and how nice that would be going from a 16-gag laptop

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so using 64 gigs will be really nice. I'm curious how much power I'll get out of the battery life.

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I don't see as being a real issue. I just look at it as being a really fantastic way to kind of

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about the B1 once I get the money for it, which is a whole other thing. But I think you are

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awful listening to me. And you guys, I mean, feel free to do your own recordings here on Hacker Public

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